nincompoop

May. 4th, 2007 07:16 am
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nincompoop - n., a fool, a simpleton, a stupid person.


Late 17th century slang of unknown origin.

---L.

Date: 2007-05-04 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] packbat.livejournal.com
Why, I say that all the time! I didn't know it had such a long heritage.

Date: 2007-05-04 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prettygoodword.livejournal.com
We've had nincompoops around for a while.

---L.

unknown?

Date: 2007-05-04 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hey, Larry, I've "always heard" that nincompoop was a corruption of non compos mentis, although that doesn't explain the poop part. Although we can guess where that came from. --Paul V (Howdy!)

Re: unknown?

Date: 2007-05-04 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prettygoodword.livejournal.com
Howdy, Paul. Good to see your phosphors, at least. For that theory, I can only quote from the Online Etymology Dictionary (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=nincompoop):
1676, nicompoop. Despite similarity [noted by Johnson] to L. legal phrase non compos mentis "insane, mentally incompetent" (1607), the connection is denied by etymologists because the earliest forms lack the second -n-. Weekley thinks first element may be a proper name, and cites Nicodemus, which he says was used in Fr. for "a fool," or Nicholas.
The other dictionaries just say "unknown."

---L.

Date: 2007-05-06 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] returnoftheblog.livejournal.com
Hooray! Interesting that it's been around for a while.

Shame there's a lack of concrete history to it, though.

Date: 2007-05-07 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prettygoodword.livejournal.com
That's true of most slang, though -- having only a hazy idea of where it's from. For both historical and current slang.

---L.

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